Concerning the Thickening of a Plot

As is its won’t, it does not cease thickening in a thick like manner.

Typed into comments on the internets today, at our pad and Dr. Shellie’s RE:Susemu Tonegawemu/MIT sitch.  Better click for the jump, we have some goldmine situation. 

At Dr. Shellie’s we have this:

“Let us as Scientist first look at the facts and the data that are provided here – although small. That is the people involved and the real direct quotes (if we can believe them). Not all the hearsay provided through third parties located on the west coast – those media seeking sad individuals. This hearsay is heavily populated in this up blog and in the very poorly supported globe article. That is lets focus on the quote’s of the MIT president, the dean, Karpova, and Tonegawa. From these quotes it clearly appears that Karpova wanted to align herself with Dr. Tonegawa through a collaboration if she accepted a position at the McGovern Institute located at MIT. Smartly so Alla! This would help her, her career, her people, and my guess her personally, possibly financially, and scientifically no doubt. Being aligned with a nobel prize winner, or a president of a University, or a dean or provost has their advantages no doubt. Obviously joining this McGovern Institute alone for some reason was not doing it for her and was not her real dream job. The dream job was much bigger then just the McGovern Institute – obviously much bigger! You have to have a big vision and this was a very big vision. Possibly her real dream might has been the Picower Institute. Otherwise this would not have been a job breaking decision. She set her goals very high. Which is a smart move.
Tonegawa runs an over 50 million dollar plus institute and holds a nobel prize, not to mention he was one of the major players in defining this field. Clearly he sounds like a good person to align yourself with – Yes? However it turns out in the end he is not interested in this. He is likely very busy, has many qualified people seeking out collaborations with him, or may just not have an interest here, and has other exciting and important things to think about and spend his time on etc…. So in the end, Karpova does not get exackly what she wants here, the real dream job which included working with Tonegawa. Also, the McGovern Institute is annoyed because they do not get the hire that they want. And Tonegawa exercises his right to freedom of speech, thought, and the freedom to collaborate with whom ever he wishes. So what I see here is a sad situation. The focus should be taken off Karpova and Tonegawa and placed centrally on the heads of the deceptively annoyed individuals who did not get their way and are throwing a big fit for no good reason. This small group who remain un-named at least in this blog, have used two individuals, women issues, and the gender card to orchestrate their attack. Damaging themselves, their future, and the very people whom employ them.

and at our place we have this:

“This is no gender issue. If anything the gender issue is in the other direction. It looks to me like Karpova wanted to collaborate with someone who turned her down. Hello, welcome to America where freedom of speach still stands tall. After repeated attempts to convince him, she was asked that she not contact him any longer as he had no interest in returning these contacts. A small winey group at MIT that did not get there way with this hire are orchestrating a full but so obvious attack on Tonegawa, using their globe bed mate as their sounding board. If I was Tonegawa I would file a suit against these transparent undermining …….. and the Globe as well.”

All emphasis TM of 3B.  These commenters have brought to our attention an insidious group, nee cabal, out to smear a helpless ultrapowerful, Nobel-prize winning, completely ensconced in a cone of total power scientist.  We have essentially threats from Maria and allegations that the Globe was literally in bed with a bad actor in this situation.  Who can Three B! believe??  Hopefully 3B is not one of these bad actors named in this expose.  In fact, the Globe repeatedly refused to bed us.

11 Responses to “Concerning the Thickening of a Plot”


  • The Globe, clearly, does not know quality.

    So sad that Tonegawa has been so horribly damaged by this attack. His opportunities to spurn requests for help from junior colleagues will obviously dwindle in the aftermath of such a smear campaign.

  • I’m worried about his borderline intimidation e-mailing skills- will they get rusty?

  • A small winey group at MIT that did not get there way with this hire

    I thought this conspiracy was merely limited to neuroscience, but clearly it extends deep into the heart of MIT’s Departments of Agriculture and Philosophy! Well, Bruce should stick to his oenophillic and homophillic pursuits and butt out of the neuroscience wars!

  • What is with the unclosed italics tags today? This is the third time I’ve seen it. Is it a plot to render comments less readable and therefore make arguments against Tonegawa seem less upright or serif-nacious?

  • Where’s the unclosed tag?

  • “However it turns out in the end he is not interested in this. He is likely very busy, has many qualified people seeking out collaborations with him, or may just not have an interest here, and has other exciting and important things to think about and spend his time on etc…”

    Sheesh, it’s not like she asked him to help out with the lab chores. More like “would you like to be co-author on any interesting results I might get”.

  • It was all italicy when I posted. But now order has been restored.

  • Maybe for you, choadwad.

    There is an undisclosed and gaping-wide-open tag in commenting. Before you know it, it will have infiltrated our most sacred institutions, bending us to its maniacal ways! Damn those Italians and their typesetting!

    Sorry, I was channelling Malkin there for a second. It’s a good thing her columns aren’t syndicated all over the place, since Ann Coulter has the corner on tht particular market of hate.

    Oh, G-d damn it.

    (Marco Materazzi could not be reached for comment.)

  • The italicarchy has shown its bias once again.

  • It’s only going to get worse at MIT… details forthcoming :)

  • Oh Mike S. you are KILLING US. Susemu Tonegawemu had a nice paper in Cell today too.

    We will keep our eyes PEELED.

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